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		<title>By: A New Low/High in SciFi Nerddom &#124; Literary Escapism</title>
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		<dc:creator>A New Low/High in SciFi Nerddom &#124; Literary Escapism</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] I recently mentioned on my own site that I picked up a Motorola Droid for my new job and have been playing with it relentlessly. One of the many things I like to do when [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A New Low/High in Nerddom &#124; Morgajel.net</title>
		<link>http://morgajel.net/2010/01/16/642/comment-page-1#comment-64343</link>
		<dc:creator>A New Low/High in Nerddom &#124; Morgajel.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Toys  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yojimbo</title>
		<link>http://morgajel.net/2010/01/16/642/comment-page-1#comment-64245</link>
		<dc:creator>Yojimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shal: I just paid $125 for a Nokia phone from T-Mobile.  That got me 1125 minutes and a full year to use them. 

This crap $14 Nokia phone was left on for 4 days straight when we were in the hospital having our baby.  During that time I called every single family member I had.  When we got home and back to the charger the thing was still running like a champ.  No smart phone is going to have battery life like that.

Since I&#039;m not required to have an internet enabled phone to do my job I find that the crappy phones that can go a week before needing a charge work great for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shal: I just paid $125 for a Nokia phone from T-Mobile.  That got me 1125 minutes and a full year to use them. </p>
<p>This crap $14 Nokia phone was left on for 4 days straight when we were in the hospital having our baby.  During that time I called every single family member I had.  When we got home and back to the charger the thing was still running like a champ.  No smart phone is going to have battery life like that.</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m not required to have an internet enabled phone to do my job I find that the crappy phones that can go a week before needing a charge work great for me.</p>
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		<title>By: morgajel</title>
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		<dc:creator>morgajel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was my first instinct, but they were quick to point out that each box has an RFID tag for tracking, so some other schmuck would be credited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was my first instinct, but they were quick to point out that each box has an RFID tag for tracking, so some other schmuck would be credited.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds to me like you had 2 weeks to locate another 30c box from some other sucker, and offer to buy it from them for $20.

Alan</description>
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<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: morgajel</title>
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		<dc:creator>morgajel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaldannon
first 3 I agree with; 
4) keyboard was annoying after use, but not on initial usage- I figured it was something I had to get used to; Holster was my bad- I hadn&#039;t thought through the joys of inward vs outward; slider wasn&#039;t noticeable until I was wearing it; camera worked fine *in* the store in bright light, and way better than my blackberry did; touchpad was another thing I thought I&#039;d &quot;get use to&quot;; Battery was due to roaming, again not forseeable from the storefront. All the reports I read neverreally mentioned these issues.
5) The G1, HTC hero, and a couple other phones were the precursors to the droid as far as hardware goes- you know motorola did their homework before building the droid. They also had th &quot;2.0&quot; advantage- the moment had android 1.5, while the droid had 2.0. You are correct, it did have issues when it first came out, and most of those were fixed with 2.0.1. It&#039;s still rough in some spots, but a hell of a lot better than the blackberry- the free ssh client I got for it makes it worth the value right there, leading into...
6) I actually do ssh into servers to fix them; that&#039;s really the only reason I have a phone.
7) They got my 15% off at the get go, and they will reimburse me for the cost, so getting my choice of phone that they&#039;ll pay for makes up for the inconvenience.

I should also note that it works great as an ebook reader, which I&#039;ve been using to read a couple of books. I did this with the blackberry as well, but this screen is much easier on the eyes (larger/more text on a page).

So while I see your point that it&#039;s not a toy, it&#039;s more like a multitool for my usage... then again I also see tools as toys so I guess it&#039;s a wash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaldannon<br />
first 3 I agree with;<br />
4) keyboard was annoying after use, but not on initial usage- I figured it was something I had to get used to; Holster was my bad- I hadn&#8217;t thought through the joys of inward vs outward; slider wasn&#8217;t noticeable until I was wearing it; camera worked fine *in* the store in bright light, and way better than my blackberry did; touchpad was another thing I thought I&#8217;d &#8220;get use to&#8221;; Battery was due to roaming, again not forseeable from the storefront. All the reports I read neverreally mentioned these issues.<br />
5) The G1, HTC hero, and a couple other phones were the precursors to the droid as far as hardware goes- you know motorola did their homework before building the droid. They also had th &#8220;2.0&#8243; advantage- the moment had android 1.5, while the droid had 2.0. You are correct, it did have issues when it first came out, and most of those were fixed with 2.0.1. It&#8217;s still rough in some spots, but a hell of a lot better than the blackberry- the free ssh client I got for it makes it worth the value right there, leading into&#8230;<br />
6) I actually do ssh into servers to fix them; that&#8217;s really the only reason I have a phone.<br />
7) They got my 15% off at the get go, and they will reimburse me for the cost, so getting my choice of phone that they&#8217;ll pay for makes up for the inconvenience.</p>
<p>I should also note that it works great as an ebook reader, which I&#8217;ve been using to read a couple of books. I did this with the blackberry as well, but this screen is much easier on the eyes (larger/more text on a page).</p>
<p>So while I see your point that it&#8217;s not a toy, it&#8217;s more like a multitool for my usage&#8230; then again I also see tools as toys so I guess it&#8217;s a wash.</p>
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		<title>By: shaldannon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughts:

1. Sales people are sales people.  Whatever they may be like off company hours, on company hours their jobs are to 1. sell things and 2. not allow returns.  Furthermore, the contracts are written to help them with (2).  Things like human decency don&#039;t factor into the on-the-job equation.

2. Sprint sales folks will lie to you.  I had a 2 year Sprint plan in Raleigh, hooked in by the $WORK company discount they offered (see (1.1).  A few months into my contract, I got a very steep bill because I&#039;d run well over my monthly minute allowance.  I contacted them, asked to adjust my minutes up.  The phone rep said, &quot;It&#039;s done.&quot;  The following month, I used the minutes like I had them.  Imagine my shock when I got the bill, the allowance hadn&#039;t been increased and the phone tech I talked to gave me the &quot;well, it was never adjusted and I have no evidence that you called in&quot; line.

3. Verizon&#039;s coverage is probably the best in the country, but their reps can treat you pretty badly.  I walked into a Verizon store in Huntsville, AL, and got in line.  an older couple wandered in after I did, but the sales rep made a beeline for them, completely ignoring me.  The three of them spent the next 2-3 *HOURS* examining Every. Single. Phone. On. The. Shelves., inquiring about battery life and ringtone volume because &quot;he can&#039;t hear ringtones&quot;.  After half an hour, I approached the tech support desk and was told I was &quot;next on the list&quot;.  Gee, thanks.  After 45 minutes, I started pacing laps around the store floor to see if I could get their attention.  After an hour, the store manager came out and told me to stop pacing, that I was next in line.  My complaints fell on deaf ears.  I paced for most of the rest of the time until told (again) to stop, that it was making people nervous.  I&#039;ve generally had better response time from Verizon staff, but that incident annoyed me.

4. When buying a phone, it&#039;s probably best to test functionality before you buy it.  That won&#039;t tell you if it is going to switch to and from roaming every 5 minutes, but it can give you a good feel for the UI.  When my wife and I purchased our blackberry Curves at the Verizon store, we tried the newest touch-screen blackberry available.  Neither of us could get it to scroll, it repeated keystrokes, and generally was an annoyance to use.  The older, less fancy Curve, acted exactly as one would expect, so that&#039;s what we got.  It&#039;s been quite a pleasant device to use.  Compare that with the Treo that preceded it.  I had had Palm PDAs in the past, and had had good experiences with them.  The lack of a grafiti pad, and the tendency of the phone to freeze when it had trouble picking up a signal, contributed to my replacing it at the end of the contract with a blackberry.

5. From all the reports I&#039;ve heard, it would probably have been best to wait for the next generation &#039;Droid.  Early adopters get to sort through all of the design flaws that haven&#039;t yet been identified, much less solved.

6. Maybe it&#039;s because I&#039;m of partial Scottish ancestry, or maybe it&#039;s the economy, but I&#039;m starting to desire having just a regular, cheap, crappy phone without the monthly data plan.  It&#039;s not like I irc from the phone, or that I&#039;m going to log into a server somewhere and fix it from the Metro train.

7. If $WORK wants me available 24x7, they can jolly well pony up for a work phone.   There&#039;s no way I&#039;m spending *MY* hard-earned cash on *THEIR* leash.

At the end of the day, I&#039;ve decided that a phone is just a tool, not a toy, and that one service provider is probably just as mediocre as another service provider.  Sometimes you get lucky and they treat you like a human instead of another number.  Most of the time they treat you like another annoyance to be dealt with as quickly and (to them) painlessly as possible.

Me, cynical?  naaaaaawwwwww...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughts:</p>
<p>1. Sales people are sales people.  Whatever they may be like off company hours, on company hours their jobs are to 1. sell things and 2. not allow returns.  Furthermore, the contracts are written to help them with (2).  Things like human decency don&#8217;t factor into the on-the-job equation.</p>
<p>2. Sprint sales folks will lie to you.  I had a 2 year Sprint plan in Raleigh, hooked in by the $WORK company discount they offered (see (1.1).  A few months into my contract, I got a very steep bill because I&#8217;d run well over my monthly minute allowance.  I contacted them, asked to adjust my minutes up.  The phone rep said, &#8220;It&#8217;s done.&#8221;  The following month, I used the minutes like I had them.  Imagine my shock when I got the bill, the allowance hadn&#8217;t been increased and the phone tech I talked to gave me the &#8220;well, it was never adjusted and I have no evidence that you called in&#8221; line.</p>
<p>3. Verizon&#8217;s coverage is probably the best in the country, but their reps can treat you pretty badly.  I walked into a Verizon store in Huntsville, AL, and got in line.  an older couple wandered in after I did, but the sales rep made a beeline for them, completely ignoring me.  The three of them spent the next 2-3 *HOURS* examining Every. Single. Phone. On. The. Shelves., inquiring about battery life and ringtone volume because &#8220;he can&#8217;t hear ringtones&#8221;.  After half an hour, I approached the tech support desk and was told I was &#8220;next on the list&#8221;.  Gee, thanks.  After 45 minutes, I started pacing laps around the store floor to see if I could get their attention.  After an hour, the store manager came out and told me to stop pacing, that I was next in line.  My complaints fell on deaf ears.  I paced for most of the rest of the time until told (again) to stop, that it was making people nervous.  I&#8217;ve generally had better response time from Verizon staff, but that incident annoyed me.</p>
<p>4. When buying a phone, it&#8217;s probably best to test functionality before you buy it.  That won&#8217;t tell you if it is going to switch to and from roaming every 5 minutes, but it can give you a good feel for the UI.  When my wife and I purchased our blackberry Curves at the Verizon store, we tried the newest touch-screen blackberry available.  Neither of us could get it to scroll, it repeated keystrokes, and generally was an annoyance to use.  The older, less fancy Curve, acted exactly as one would expect, so that&#8217;s what we got.  It&#8217;s been quite a pleasant device to use.  Compare that with the Treo that preceded it.  I had had Palm PDAs in the past, and had had good experiences with them.  The lack of a grafiti pad, and the tendency of the phone to freeze when it had trouble picking up a signal, contributed to my replacing it at the end of the contract with a blackberry.</p>
<p>5. From all the reports I&#8217;ve heard, it would probably have been best to wait for the next generation &#8216;Droid.  Early adopters get to sort through all of the design flaws that haven&#8217;t yet been identified, much less solved.</p>
<p>6. Maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m of partial Scottish ancestry, or maybe it&#8217;s the economy, but I&#8217;m starting to desire having just a regular, cheap, crappy phone without the monthly data plan.  It&#8217;s not like I irc from the phone, or that I&#8217;m going to log into a server somewhere and fix it from the Metro train.</p>
<p>7. If $WORK wants me available 24&#215;7, they can jolly well pony up for a work phone.   There&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m spending *MY* hard-earned cash on *THEIR* leash.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, I&#8217;ve decided that a phone is just a tool, not a toy, and that one service provider is probably just as mediocre as another service provider.  Sometimes you get lucky and they treat you like a human instead of another number.  Most of the time they treat you like another annoyance to be dealt with as quickly and (to them) painlessly as possible.</p>
<p>Me, cynical?  naaaaaawwwwww&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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